Ramana Maharshi on people ‘Mutilating’ the Truth | The 2 levels of non-dual teachings | Advaita Vedanta

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One devotee of Sri Ramana Maharshi’s, a certain Lakshmana Sarma (LS), was unhappy about how Sri Ramana’s teachings had been misrepresented – even by other devotees – so after consulting with Sri Ramana Maharshi he wrote several texts aimed at correcting these distorting teachings.

Lakshmana Sarma, who was with Sri Ramana for over 20 years, was uniquely qualified to comment on Sri Ramana’s teachings as he was one of only 2 people who received personal 1 to 1 tuition from Sri Ramana on the deeper meaning of Sri Ramana’s teachings which went on for several years. He was also a Vedic and Sanskrit scholar, having studied the Upanishads and Shankara’s vast works as well as many other works too. Many of his books were published during Sri Ramana’s lifetime and were recommended by Sri Ramana himself. Ramana Maharshi said that LS’s commentary on Ramana’s work ’40 verses on reality’ was the best one availabile. Being fluent in English, LS translated his books himself into English so we can be sure the English translations are accurate.

In LS’s book entitled ‘Maha Yoga‘, he explains Sri Ramana Maharshi’s teachings in the context of the Upanishads and Advaita Vedanta; and he also gives Sri Ramana’s view on how the Sage sees the world.

In Maha Yoga LS explains there are 2 levels of the teaching, the higher (true) teachings for those who can accept there the world is not real and lower (ultimately untrue) teachings for those who cannot. Note that LS uses the English word ‘revelation’ to refer to Shruti (the revealed scriptures consisting primarily of the Vedas and Upanishads). Here is Maha yoga pages 59-60:

The ancient lore is twofold. One part of it is addressed to those who are not conscious of being in ignorance, and therefore have no use for a teaching intended to dispel that ignorance. The other part of the ancient lore is addressed to those that are conscious of the ignorance and are in earnest to escape from it. These two parts are quite distinct. But this feature of the ancient Revelation is not known to these believers. Besides they are offended by the inevitable corollary that theirs is a lower position; they also feel it a grievance that the world, which they believe to be real, should be dismissed as unreal, and often want to quarrel with us who are followers of the Sages; we however have no quarrel with them, as the Sages have pointed out, because we realise that for them it is all right to believe as they do, and, so believing, to make the best of the world while it lasts. They are like dreamers who are persuaded that their dreams are real, and do not want to awake.’

LS testifies about how he often saw Bhagavan Sri Ramana ‘water down’ the teachings to suit those who were unwilling or unable to hear the true teachings. Even many devotees of Sri Ramana were often not able to accept the higher teachings. See here in Maha Yoga pages 160-161:

‘Even among the Sage’s disciples, there are some who cannot understand the answer [that the world is not real and has never even actually appeared]; but that is so because they are believers in a fascinating, but complicated creed, in which the chief tenet is that the world is real as such; it is therefore quite natural that they should refuse to understand the Sage’s teachings, of which the essential part is that the world is not real as such. They are dualists in fact, and as such violent haters of Advaitic teaching.

‘In this connection we may take note of the tenderness the Sage shows for the weaknesses of believers. The Sage observes the rule enunciated in the Gita (3.26) that no one’s faith should be disturbed. Therefore when ardent dualists are present, the Sage is very careful in what he says. He does not, while they are present, give out clear Advaitic teaching. But as soon as the dualists go out, he turns round to the Advaitis that remain, and apologetically explains to them that he had to water down the teaching to suit the dualists.’

This is important to note, as Sri Ramana’s closest devotees were all in agreement about this point, that Sri Ramana’s highest teaching to those who knew him best was Ajata Vada (see here for more on this) and that the body-mind-world does not even appear to a Jnani, not even as an appearance. Lower teachings stating that the world still remained were often given out to those who were not willing or able to receive these higher teachings.

In the Bhagavad Gita verse 3.26, referred to above by LS, Lord Krishna recommends that we do not disturb the minds of the ignorant who are attached to a life of doing and action (karma) and who are not yet ready to hear the higher teaching:

3.26 Let not the wise disrupt the minds of the ignorant who are attached to action, they should not be encouraged to refrain from work, but to engage in work in the spirit of devotion

LS continues:

‘He thus treats the latter as immature ones, and the Advaitis as adults who can understand that allowances have to be made to the immature. But he leaves us in no doubt at all, that the Advaitic teaching is the highest there can be.

‘On many occasions the Sage has clearly testified to this. One such occasion was this. Somebody had written in a book, that the Truth would be whole only if the world be real as such – with all its variety – not else. When this writer was reading this, the Sage [Sri Ramana Maharshi] exclaimed: ‘As if the Truth would be mutilated otherwise.’’

How many times have we heard the (false) teaching that true non-duality would and must include the world! Here above Sri Ramana is clearly refuting this.

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Sri Ramana Maharshi on great public workers trying to reduce misery and suffering in the world

Excerpt from Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi, Talk 272

Devotee: There are widespread disasters spreading havoc in the world e.g., famine and pestilence. What is the cause of this state of affairs?

Sri Ramana Maharshi: To whom does all this appear?

D: That won’t do. I see misery around.

M: You were not aware of the world and its sufferings in your sleep; you are conscious of them in your wakeful state. Continue in that state in which you were not afflicted by these. That is to say, when you are not aware of the world, its sufferings do not affect you. When you remain as the Self, as in sleep, the world and its sufferings will not affect you. Therefore look within. See the Self! There will be an end of the world and its miseries.

D: But that is selfishness.

M: The world is not external. Because you identify yourself wrongly with the body you see the world outside, and its pain becomes apparent to you. But they are not real. Seek the reality and get rid of this unreal feeling.

D: There are great men, public workers, who cannot solve the problem of the misery of the world.

M: They are ego-centred and therefore their inability. If they remained in the Self they would be different…

New Testimonial – Claire

Tom speaks only from love. My heart can feel this and it is this resonance that has made our 1:1 sessions so powerful. Through Tom, this love gently reveals the lies of the ego. There is no judgement, just the opportunity to let go and rest in truth; in peace. This pure and unconditional love cuts through the darkness of past traumas, unconscious beliefs and fears.

I came to Tom not being able to trust love and through a journey of 6 sessions (which went in many different directions and covered many different aspects of my life) I have experienced the most profound healing. The mind still has the capacity to take me out and get lost in the drama of illusion, but now I am always able to return to love and find peace.

Instead of not trusting love, I now know with every fibre of my being that love is the ONLY thing I can trust. I feel so incredibly blessed to have met and worked with this amazing Being called Tom
Claire, Canada

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Mental Health and Non-Duality: Depression, anxiety, trauma, addiction, low self-esteem (and how I may be able to help)

Also see my various other articles on mental health and spirituality here

WHICH OF THESE THREE GROUPS (SEE BELOW) DO YOU FALL INTO?

Some people come to this teaching quite depressed, with low self-esteem, and other psychological issues such as anxiety, varying levels of addiction, or just being in a psychological rut that they cannot seem to get out of. They look to spiritual teachings as a solution, and they look to self enquiry as a way out.

The truth is that ultimately the solution IS spiritual and self enquiry IS the way out. Without genuine self-realization suffering will inevitably continue on some level.

For some, all they need is self enquiry. This will cure them totally and fully. In truth this is all any of us really need.

However there are many seekers I come across who have psychological issues or life issues (issues with relationships, money, work, family) which (in their mind and in their experience) prevent them from deeply engaging with self-enquiry. These psychological issues and habitual tendencies prevent their self enquiry and spiritual practice from going deeper.

Sometimes this manifests simply as not having much desire to actually do or engage with self-inquiry despite having a relatively good understanding of the teachings.

For many years now I have been working 1 to 1 with apparent people to unblock these psychological issues and other life issues such as relationship issues, money issues and self-esteem/confidence issues. I am happy to say that my success rate is very high 😊 and I have guided many people to heal their deepest psychological wounds. Often this happens relatively quickly, just in a few sessions, but sometimes it can take much longer. It depends on the person, their openness to truth, their willingness to look at themselves and question their own beliefs, as well as our connection and their resonance with what/how I share.

I should say at this point that if you have deep psychopathology, such as psychosis or severe PTSD type symptoms or recurrent suicidal thoughts, then it is best to see a therapist who specialises in these areas and not me. Whilst I do have many years of experience treating people who have serious mental health issues, I’m not a qualified psychotherapist.

However if you have milder psychological issues that are getting you down, or if you feel you are in a rut, if you are having relationship patterns or other habitual tendencies that repeat themselves, if you have issues with your self-esteem and daily levels of happiness, then these are issues I can probably help you quite a lot with, especially if you have tried other things which have not worked.

(These are often the people that come to me! People have tried everything else that hasn’t quite yet worked!)

And often one-to-one sessions with me have resulted in a great opening, a great opening to happiness and love and connection, which is what the teaching is actually about.

I have found that the way I work with people varies quite a lot, it can vary a huge amount actually, as the way I respond depends on the person I am speaking with and the issues they are confronted with. I like to think that I meet people where they are and so each person hopefully receives the teaching that they need from me.

I would like to make a point here that this teaching is not about breaking you down, deconstructing and destroying you. That is the intellectual approach. Quite the contrary, this teaching is about building you up, connecting with what you actually are, which is something wonderful…and then going beyond that too, beyond any notions of a person who can connect with something greater than themselves. This is discovering the actual truth of what you are, which is total consciousness, total compassion, total love, total bliss, the end of suffering, Divine Oneness… And it is just simple Being devoid of any duality or illusion.

So perhaps you fall into one of these three groups:

1) If your self enquiry and spiritual practise is going well, then you probably don’t need me at all.

2) If your self enquiry is ok but could be better, or your motivation is lacking or your understanding is not quite there, then I would recommend you come to satsang meetings with me. These meetings provide a very powerful energy and environment in which not only are you energetically drawn much deeper (at least this is the feedback I get from people who attend satsang with me), but doubts and questions can also be resolved on the verbal and conceptual level too. Some people only need to attend a few meetings to have their doubts resolved, but others will need to attend many meetings regularly in order for the teachings to go in more fully and deeply and have the desired effect. There is a charge to attend these sessions, but if you cannot afford this charge, you can pay a lower amount or come for free if you message me first. In this way nobody is excluded from the teaching.

3) if you have psychological or relationship or life issues that are keeping you unhappy and distracting you/preventing you going deeply into your self enquiry, then consider booking a one-to-one session with me. There is a one-to-one fund available to partly or wholly cover the cost of this for people who are genuinely engaged with this apparent path but who cannot afford to pay for a one-to-one session with me – see my website tomdas.com for details. This fund is largely supported by donations from people who themselves have greatly benefited from 1 to 1 sessions with me and would like to see other people also benefit.

I write this in the hope that this information is helpful to you and benefits you on your journey.

If anybody reading this has had a good experience of one-to-one sessions with me, or of attending satsang meetings, or can otherwise vouch for what I’ve said above, please consider sharing this in the comments

Please also read and ensure you understand the Disclaimer here before booking any sessions with me.

Namaste & best wishes

Tom

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New Testimonial – Achlys

Having discovered Bhagavān Sri Ramana and his teachings online, I quickly consumed as much information about his teachings as possible. I found Tom, his YouTube and his website a few months later, and was awed (and continue to be to this day) by the breadth and accessibility of the material. I came in with fixed ideas about how a “liberated sage” or “spiritual teacher” should behave, speak or look like, ideas that have no basis in reality, as an aura of peace and stillness is a better identifier of a genuine teacher than any behaviour – an aura which I feel is palpable when coming in touch with Tom and his sharing. However, Tom charging money for satsangs and 1:1 meetings initially did make me somewhat suspicious of him.

Despite this, Tom makes a concerted effort to accommodate low or no-income seekers by publishing all his writings for free, have download links to books on the recommended reading list and refusing to price anyone out of attending satsang, all you have to do is email him to let him know. With the recent addition of the 1:1 fund, where satsang attendees are free to, if they so choose, generously contribute in order to allow those without the means to pay access to the meetings, I’ve had the privilege to take advantage of this scheme, by which I am humbled, and for which I am grateful.

Tom as a teacher and person in general is very kind, warm, and easy to chat to, our session at times felt more like hanging out with a close friend rather than some sort of super serious spiritual talk. His unique blend of affirming where you stand and making you feel secure while still challenging your mind’s patterns and beliefs and encouraging you to re-frame and re-examine ideas and behaviours you struggle with make him an excellent fit for seekers who struggle with anxiety, depression or low self-esteem.

While often these non-dual teachings can feel like having the rug pulled out from under your feet out of nowhere, in my experience, Tom’s gentle approach can leave you feeling (in the short term) like not a lot has actually happened or changed, but over time, you notice the subtle differences in the way you think, practice and interact with the teachings and life at large. This extremely fundamentally sound approach focuses not on the “bells and whistles” one may associate with spirituality, but rather on genuinely bringing the seeker towards peace and contentment in their daily life.

After attending satsang regularly for around 13 months now, I can tell it’s making a huge difference in terms of reducing negativity and suffering I was experiencing. The ease and convenience of accessing Tom’s presence 2x weekly is just the cherry on top. If any of this sounds remotely interesting to you, I highly recommend you check it out – we’re very privileged to have such a profound source of spiritual support a few clicks away. Between the YouTube channel, blog posts, recommended reading texts, zoom satsangs and 1:1 meetings, it’s very simple to slowly empty your mind of the harmful and extraneous and fill it with stillness and intense desire for liberation, regardless of your life situation.
Achlys, Poland

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New testimonial – Neha

I started with Tom’s Satsang after coming across his website during an online search. At the time, I had no clue that I would be attending his Satsang regularly. I previously read a few books about Sri Ramana Maharshi but I think I was seeking a deeper understanding of the teachings.

Tom’s Satsang introduced me to Silence and connection to our inner peace. I will say it’s the most wonderful teaching I have ever received. We often find answers to our questions just by being present in the Satsang. I have read this before I am Self. But earlier it was just a statement. I have now started to feel more confident and have faith in myself.

The way he explains is simple and clear. His blogs are condensed and wonderful. I have always found a blog that deepens my understanding. In our one-to-one meetings, I have evolved and he has been very kind and patient to help me come to my conclusions. I am slowly finding answers to all my questions and it feels all correct. Thank you. Tom, I am always grateful for your insights, clarifications and our discussions.
Neha, USA

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New Testimonial – Markus

Here is a ‘new’ testimonial – it was written some months ago but I am only just uploading it to tomdas.com, please take a look – more testimonials can be found using the menu above:

Love of Bhagavan can be felt in Tom’s presence. That presence pierces through all the layers of the mind, straight to the heart. The silence in satsangs is reforming us, making our egos an offering for the Self to absorb. The first great event in this life was to come to know that Bhagavan Ramana loves me and wants to consume my ego. The second great event was to come to a satsang held by Tom and to start attending regularly. 

Tom’s website and YouTube channel are a treasure trove that provides everything needed, whether one is new to spiritual life or already a seasoned seeker. Satsang gifts us a spiritual home, a place to share and heal, and to realize the immaculate truth that Is. The meetings are the highlights of my week. Through the powerful presence, we are maturing; suffering and worldliness fall away, and the essential practice is eventually established: to let go of body–mind–world and to dive within, to be with our Self. 

Eternal gratitude to Tom, through whom we can intuit the loving presence of Bhagavan. I can wholeheartedly recommend the satsangs for anyone who longs for happiness and peace.

Markus, Finland