Experientially and during the waking state, you could say it is the sense of presence-awareness which remains unchanged. Note this is an experiential truth, based on concepts, not a scientific truth.
Experientially, the sense of presence-awareness is you. Why ask ‘who has’? It implies that there has to be an external owner of presence-awareness. You could then ask ‘who has’ the owner of presence-awareness ad infinitum….we know presence-awareness is here, and that is enough with respect to these teachings on freedom.
>> “Experientially, the sense of presence-awareness is you”
How can a “sense of presence awareness” know itself experientially and How ? Who is the Experiencer here ?
>> “we know presence-awareness ”
don’t you see its contradiction with the above statement? when you say We know, then the knower must be separate from that “sense of awareness” right ? , think along these lines.
Tom Das 
.. and what is our essence ?
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Experientially and during the waking state, you could say it is the sense of presence-awareness which remains unchanged. Note this is an experiential truth, based on concepts, not a scientific truth.
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who has this sense of presence-awareness during waking state ?
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Why do you ask? eg. are you testing me or inquiring?
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Inquiring.
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So, have you found me the answer ? “who has this sense of presence-awareness during waking state ?”
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Experientially, the sense of presence-awareness is you. Why ask ‘who has’? It implies that there has to be an external owner of presence-awareness. You could then ask ‘who has’ the owner of presence-awareness ad infinitum….we know presence-awareness is here, and that is enough with respect to these teachings on freedom.
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Tom,
Thanks for the reply !
>> “Experientially, the sense of presence-awareness is you”
How can a “sense of presence awareness” know itself experientially and How ? Who is the Experiencer here ?
>> “we know presence-awareness ”
don’t you see its contradiction with the above statement? when you say We know, then the knower must be separate from that “sense of awareness” right ? , think along these lines.
regds,
unmesh
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I see what you are saying Unmesh. What’s your view on this?
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