‘FAITH PENDING RESULTS’?
Some say that Shraddha, the Sankrit word for faith, does not refer to blind faith or mere belief, but to a ‘faith pending results’, similar to the ‘faith’ required for a science student to follow a scientific experiment in order to discover the truth it yields.
Whilst there is some truth in this, it is not the whole truth, and also note that the scriptures do not define faith in this way (see the quotes section below). It is true that faith, as spoken of in the Advaita scriptures, is not the end goal in itself, meaning one doesn’t simply believe in God or in a dogma or creed of some kind and leave it at that, which would be rather superficial and on the level of the intellect predominantly. Rather faith is a ferry to take us to the shore of liberation, and this liberation is the goal, and this goal of liberation or God must be ‘experienced’ or ‘realised’ or ‘known’ for oneself, for want of a better phrase.
However, the faith spoken of in the Vedanta scriptures is much deeper than what has been described above. It is not just a mere willingness to try something until you see the results, like a scientist, or even a simple trust that the teachings will show you the way, but something that throbs in our very core, a deep conviction, in our very heart, in our Being. It is a deep resonance, a magnetic pull, intertwined with an intuitive knowing.
This faith cannot be taught, but is something that at some point in our journey springs into our very Being and takes us Home to Liberation. Perhaps it comes to us having listened to and studied the Advaita (or similar) teachings for some time, or perhaps faith dawns after having experienced the various ups and downs of life, or perhaps it comes to us unasked for, as Divine a Gift from God, a Gift of His Grace.
This true faith is inextricably linked with Bhakti, or devotional love of the Divine, which culminates in love to be with Self as Self, otherwise known as Self-Enquiry or Dhyana (meditation).
For me this Faith arose through the Presence and Teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi, and for that I am forever grateful. His Presence and His Teachings unfailingly guide Homeward those who have come under His Spell and Grace. He is the Lord, He is the very Self, he resides within your very Heart – turn inwards and dis-cover (ie. uncover and reveal) your identity with Him.
QUOTES FROM THE VEDANTA SCRIPTURES
Let us see what kind of person, according to Vedanta, attains Jnana, or ‘divine knowledge’, otherwise known as liberation:
Bhagavan Lord Krishna states in the Gita Chapter 4, verse 39: ‘Those whose faith is deep and who have practiced controlling their mind and senses attain divine knowledge.’
Shankara defines faith and states it is necessary for realisation in Vivekachudamani: ‘Acceptance by firm judgment as true of what the Scriptures and the Guru instruct, is called by sages Shraddha or faith, by means of which the Reality is perceived‘
Shankara also writes in Aparokshanubhuti that Shraddha is required for liberation and defines Shraddha as follows: ‘Implicit faith in the words of the Vedas and the teachers (who interpret them) is known as Shraddha‘
The above is an excerpt taken from the post Why faith IS required for liberation
I was once listening to a discussion of the Mandukya Upanishad and it became very clear, “Yes! This waking state has the same essential quality as the dream state.
It can be seen as a dream state.”
The waking state, which includes the world and the personage I ordinarily perceive, then became very fragile.
My faith in the reality of this dream state was paper-thin.
And it was accompanied by a wonderful feeling of euphoria and release.
The old way of seeing things has come back, but surely it can’t last too much longer
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I am, experiencing great difficulty negotiating the technological maze.
Let’s see if this can be posted under the name of Warwick Wakefield.
If not, I might abandon it.
I was once listening to a discussion of the Mandukya Upanishad and it became very clear, “Yes! This waking state has the same essential quality as the dream state.
It can be seen as a dream state.”
The waking state, which includes the world and the personage I ordinarily perceive, then became very fragile.
My faith in the reality of this dream state was paper-thin.
And it was accompanied by a wonderful feeling of euphoria and release.
The old way of seeing things has come back, but surely it can’t last too much longer
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Hmm
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Let’s see if this is appearing under the name of W Wakefield
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Dear goodredwine, I’m sorry that my posts got entered under your name.
I apologise.
It comes down to my incompetence with these internet thingys.
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I was once listening to a discussion of the Mandukya Upanishad and it became very clear, “Yes! This waking state has the same essential quality as the dream state.
It can be seen as a dream state.”
The waking state, which includes the world and the personage I ordinarily perceive, then became very fragile.
My faith in the reality of this dream state was paper-thin.
And it was accompanied by a wonderful feeling of euphoria and release.
The old way of seeing things has come back, but surely it can’t last too much longer
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This is my last attempt to get the comments under my name and from my email address
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